If we emphasize this gray area of commonalities, we can really bond and accept denominational differences without letting them alienate us from eachother.
Lets unite online and offline, share and grow. Liberal Christians welcome new ideas, possibilities, ways of thinking and learning how God reaches others. That is YOU and ME!We are the same person.
Through comments, emails and ideas and submissions for the site, we no longer have to feel isolated. You look in the mirror and all of us look back. We can unite as fundamentalists have and do, taking our faith and faith community seriously as we grow as friends and religiously liberal Christians.
Christian Role Models and God’s Will
I was looking up the phrase “Christian male role model,” and didn’t find much. I did find someone who asked an interesting question. They asked “are there any MASCULINE Christian men who attend church?” I understand why the question was asked, based on guys I have met in churches. I do question the importance of the question because a person who follows Christ is what a role model is..I mean masculine is nice and all but if the goal is to be a Christian male role model, and u believe as I do that you are born into your gender preference, then the masculine part, while understandable from the worldly view, misses the point.
I started thinking maybe I couldn’t find much on Christian male role models because there are many but no one is writing books on them? Maybe its something we should all aspire to as a goal?
When I thought that about myself, being one, I laughed (still am), BUT if we try, we will probably get closer than if its not in our awareness to become the people God intended and not allow our worldly side to set goals, values or control our behavior.
I think one of the most difficult things is to see things as God would and not as we would normally see them without analyzing how we are viewing things. Second guessing might make us nuts, but as far as I know if we let ourselves operate unchecked by not reading The Bible or asking ourselves is this behavior in God’s will, we will fall short of the person we were intended to become. Also, if we didn’t do what a Christian is supposed to do pray, believing our prayer was answered or excuse a non-answer by saying its not in God’s will (gray area there), and other things we read about, it is more difficult for us to become “mature in Christ,” or in English, have our automatic reactions and perceptions line up with God, as we understand Him or as He has shown himself to be in the Bible and in our individual lives.
BTW, God’s will seems subjective, a guess (to me), but I believe in the Holy Spirit, which I can’t prove, and contrary to logic most likely, take some stock in whether something sits right with me. I call that The Holy Spirit convicting me or not (telling me if something is in line with God or not). Fundamentalists I have met have indicated feelings are a bad guide, but I think they are part of our God-given humanness.
a bit depressing
hey, if u go through life feeling miscast, unappreciated and wondering what God’s plan is for your life, join the club.
So far all I can figure out is I help a lady who has the start of dementia and that is driving me nuts at times, and I am good to a Golden Retriever and have a friend. I have a job in which feel disrespected (retail).
That is just to say you are not alone. It’s confusing. I bet you wished you were good at some “helping” thing because that is more clear to see that if u r a doctor, therapist or social worker or teacher even, that you are helping someone. If not, well, u wonder what is going on with you (I do anyway). Its is leftover purist ways of thinking from my fundamentalist days I suppose.
For what its worth..hang in there. God will make it clear one of these decades. Pray for patience and eyes to see what He sees till then. Maybe u r doing what He wants u to do and you are not even aware of what you are doing.
LOL Who knows, maybe as u go about your mundane life, ur presence is important so someone..so much so that you overlook it and don’t get it. Its possible we are not all meant to do some heroic thing.
Wouldn’t others need people to take up space so they could feel they are doing more with THEIR lives? We are helping people feel good about themselves!! Way to GO!!
mostly for males
In this society, a problem for many guys, is reactionary anger. Here are some thoughts that I have found helpful during times when something really got me mad. No, they don’t always work but since they work sometimes, I thought maybe u could benefit:
"consider the source"/ what a bully or someone does says stuff about him, not about you!/ try not to think of yourself as a victim because then they will be an enemy in your mind and you might think about them alot/ try to tell yourself and believe that God tells us about human nature (sin) as being selfish, self centered and basically jerk-like so pity that person knowing that you might let them have the battle but long-term u win since u know real values and not fake temporary society role-model based garbage which is not eternal which u can see because in different societies the male role model might be different at dif times in history/ the other person is stuck in EGO with is how they look to others-which is a sad unrewarding way they live their lives/ they might get away with doing what they did but u can interpret it any way you want - so don’t let them think whatever they did hurt or even bothered u (my ego talking)/ Worry about what GOD THINKS and not how u look to others/ u might have had friction with someone because u refused to meet their needs since they conflict with your needs which is usually fine and healthy/ nothing real was lost/ its not personal since the offender treats everyone that way/
I have found forgiving others to be a challenge. Another thing that helps me is to think they are somehow like me. In other words, I try to understand how they could do what they did by pretending its me. Of course I would never do some stuff but this works for more minor things like rudeness if someone is in a hurry. I would not do that in 99% of cases but might have done it and not been aware or don’t remember.
I think I need Christian male role models so I can think I am fine not being the alpha dog in a situation if someone gets the better of me in a verbal altercation or something. I was taught not to let someone bully me but I am not a big guy, so I use the things in this piece to try to not let things bother me and to be okay with myself if I don’t live upto the dysfunctional “male” role model I was suppose to live upto which is unhealthy to follow, man made, and can’t be what God wants.
Christ in Business
We had our carpet cleaned by a guy who named his company after something in The Bible, and we confirmed this with him. He (the owner) made a statement that there are many people who say they are Christians in business but their behavior says otherwise,and he added “don’t give me this Jesus crap.”
His most experienced employees did our house and left tiles wet. I fell on the tiles, getting glass in my hand and breaking my cell phone.
Upon hearing about these things, his only comment was “so how was the carpet?’
My thought is that if people know u think of yourself as a Christian, you better be sure you automatically respond with the compassion of a Christian because even if he said all the right things now, he already revealed to me (or I interpret it as) this “Christian” puts money before the reason he professes to be alive.
I call myself a hypocritical Christian because I don’t know for sure how I will respond to everything and don’t want someone else calling me that first if I do react in a way that doesn’t reflect my beliefs. If u take God seriously it really does seem like a hard thing to live upto.
To Any of Your Critics
So we all do stuff that we might believe is not the right thing, but lets admit these are pretty little things when you think of the oceans of stuff God hears from people.
I listen to Kid Rock music. Some of the song titles include Fuck That, Fuck Off, Fuck you Blind and so on.. I am a Christian and I like the beat and am not bothered by the lyrics. Come on, these are songs.
Obviously a very small group of people will be impacted to go do violent things due to songs. Yes, these people exist, but for Christians to have a problem with this stuff is SO STUPID to me! They should focus on real stuff that matters.
Many radio stations won’t play Kid Rock music. Yes, I would be a strict parent, but wouldn’t be concerned my son is listening to Satan-influenced music. I say this because I have heard that kind of comment from a Christian friend of mine who, as a Christian, objects to the lyrics.
I suppose I will never get a date because my title on a dating site is Christian Kid Rock Fan. Many might see this as a conflict or empty or meaningless faith.
When you compartmentalize things, one thing doesn’t necessarily affect the other. God is very meaningful to me, but doesn’t appear to be meaningful to Kid Rock. One line is “I was so lost, but now I am just blind.” He also says if he were born again he would come back as (some joke, don’t recall). He talks about “liking crotch.” Well folks, we are human, as much as we would like to deny things that are human, I noticed babies keep being born somehow, and all over! Somebody’s being turned on by something.
This is all to say, if someone is telling you that a habit, interest or hobby is hypocritical, think about it before automatically believing them, regardless of who is saying it. Then ask yourself if they have some motive, psychological or otherwise for saying it.
An English professor once made an argument, that seemed right to me, that just because some author writes about violence or sad things, that writing doesn’t necessarily reflect how they feel or think.
Obviously, if u r hurting people or animals as a result of whatever you are being told is an issue…..ur not dumb.
Tell these critics to look in the mirror and be human. They are probably shut down or repressed in more than the brain area.
Sometimes without even knowing how, you seem to be oriented to God. You seem to make choices God would have you make, even when you have not been doing anything religious oriented in a while. In other words, your carnal desires for sex, money, or even revenge do not seem to be your focus when they often would be in the absence of reading The Bible or thinking about that stuff.
When that happens, I believe God is holding onto you through The Holy Spirit. He still cares even when we don’t give our Creator any time and limited thought.
You might be depressed. You might know no one gives a crap. BUT whether you feel it or not, please remember one fact…God sees something in you. God says you are valuable.
So knowing this, instead of getting down about what others say or how they ignore or treat you, you can tell them you know the TRUTH that they are too blind to see. They are no more valuable than you are and you are no less valuable than they are..even if they NEED to feel there is a difference. They are weak, insecure and wrong!
Conflict With Neighbors
The real you is most accurately seen by your neighbors.
Problems often arise between neighbors, which is why your “problem neighbors” are a proving ground and a spiritual opportunity to pass those tests God gives us.
Are you brave enough or committed enough to follow Christ’s FORGIVENESS example since that is what our belief is all about? If you can’t forgive and love your neighbor, you are not strong in Christ’s basics.
To males.. are you man enough to lower your pride and apologize to a neighbor? Non-Christians have pretty predictable behavior based on pride, worldly toughness and all..we are SUPPOSE TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE WORLD
God is not and never has been into macho, dominance or testosterone. God values behaviors shown by Jesus, which revolve around love. Males need to understand these are not sissy, or weak behaviors.
We are dealing with the power and strength of the spirit world, which is dominant, stronger and more potent than any “real man” of the world!
So take that first step. The neighbor might or might not be receptive, but this is not your concern. You are doing it to be consistent with our belief, right with God and to prove to yourself that you are the bigger man. Meanwhile these worldy men fight to earn their man card almost daily because they doubt themselves as they compare themselves to other men. In the world, you can never be “enough.”
While your non-Christian neighbor might not understand anything but conflict, dominant contests or friction, by not letting those things control you, you are TRULY the dominant one not only over him but over yourself and those demons.
It’s time to kill the Hollywood and worldly male. You can be the new personification of God’s idea of a male, and not one dreamed up by the dysfunctional examples you have followed to date.
Again, your neighborhood is where your true colors show. Shock them with forgiveness and talk things out. Be honest with yourself, YOU attending church might provide your neighbors a big laugh! Let them see more than hypocrisy. Confuse them, make them suspicious, change their minds about you.
A side benefit is the Holy Spirit is no longer bothered by this past conflict. You know it doesn’t sit right with you..that is the Holy Spirit.
Who knows, this behavior might confuse them so much it could open the door to not only a conversation that mends fences, a friendship, but possibly even to Christ.
Oh yeah..I forgot about God
Do you feel depressed, tired or worn out? I get this way whenever I have problems at work, or feel like I don’t know where I am going or want out of where I am at.
BUT then when think about it, I have been trying to figure out stuff without including God. I get locked into worry and how I feel so much that I almost forget I believe in God. Maybe its God’s way of getting my attention, but now that He has my attention, I tell Him I have been praying periodically for a new job, to win the lottery (yes, I know alot of lottery players do this), and for direction.
When fundamentalists believe they get an answer from God, they say..as revolting as I think it is (and aggravating), God TOLD THEM something. Well, since I said the same things to God have in the past, He told me He is going to replace me with a tape recorder.
I am scared, broken, open to God. This would be a really bad time to be replaced.
Thank you for following me..I appreciate it
I have not written in a while because I couldn’t think of anything worthy of your time to read it. Like other people, I do write nonsense on my site, but I try not to.
I just wanted to take a minute to thank anyone who is taking the time to read that and other stuff on this site. I apologize if I repeat myself at times.
I wanted you to know I do intend to add to the site, so don’t leave, I just hate following people who write every day because their stuff never stops, and becomes irritating, which is the only reason I don’t follow some tumblr sites I do like.
Anyway, I hope all is well with everyone and thanks again. I appreciate your taking the time for this site!!